Playing and Working with words/ 64

Playing and Working with words/ 64
Message de here4u posté le 13-02-2025 à 21:41:19 (S | E | F)
Hello dear Friends!

Voici votre nouveau casse-tête favori ! 'Playing and working with words'... La date limite pour cet exercice est fin février 2025. Je sais que certains doivent piaffer d'impatience... You can go for it!
Ce mois-ci, vous êtes doublement pénalisés... D'abord le mois n'a que 28 jours... et ensuite j'ai laissé passer la date habituelle où je poste cet exercice...

Toujours beaucoup de sollicitations, tentations et obligations qui nous détournent de l'anglais, mais bon ! Tout le monde peut réfléchir et faire marcher ses neurones tant que l'hiver nous confine au chaud !

Espérons que vous vaincrez toutes les réunions de travail et les embouteillages monstrueux à Paris et ses environs, et parviendrez quand même à vous trouver du temps pour travailler avec nous un petit moment !
N'oubliez pas de vous creuser les méninges avec nous...

Je vous rappelle que cet exercice a des règles qui doivent être respectées. Lisez-les bien si vous ne les connaissez pas ! Ce travail est loin d'être un jeu... mais il peut être très ludique... Il vous laisse également toute liberté de choisir votre thème!

Using THE 8 WORDS given below (the 2 verbs can be put in whatever tenses or forms you fancy but MUST remain verbs!), 2 adjectives or adverbs, 2 nouns and 2 link words, + a given structure and the suitable punctuation, search your minds, think hard and create AN ONLY meaningful SENTENCE. "Easy", isn't it? (In fact, it's more easily said than done and advanced learners or natives can step in!! )

- You CANNOT change the nature of the words!
- You CANNOT use two or more compulsory words consecutively!

PLEASE, WHEN YOU WRITE YOUR SENTENCE, PUT CAPITALS TO THE GIVEN WORDS! [and specify the number of words at the end.]

Je vous rappelle qu'« une phrase », une seule, se termine par un point [final, d'exclamation ou d'interrogation], peut avoir de la ponctuation interne ",/; /:/ [...], et qu'elle doit avant tout avoir un sens. (Il ne doit y avoir qu'UN SEUL POINT dans votre phrase - à la fin.) Le but ultime est de faire une seule phrase complexe, mais courte... Je le répète : elle doit avoir un sens et sa logique interne !
Cet exercice est TRES difficile, c'est pourquoi il demande beaucoup de réflexion et d'attention, de rigueur aussi dans l'application des règles. Vous ne devez le poster QU'UNE FOIS (ne faire qu'un seul exemplaire, mais vous pouvez éditer votre production en me l'indiquant !)

Pour que chacun ait la possibilité de travailler avec nous, cet exercice a des niveaux différents. Vous pouvez choisir celui qui vous convient :
Le niveau fera une seule phrase en moins de 80 mots.
Le niveau une seule phrase et toujours 60 mots, au plus.
Le niveau **, pour les plus habiles, fera une phrase de moins de 40 mots...
I'm sure you'll have inspiration...

Here are the words :

- To GROW - To SHARE - an ICEBOX - a MATTRESS - SORRY - DOMESTIC - 'D RATHER - CONTRARY TO (one word) + une question en HOW + ADJECTIF
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C'est parti pour une " très jolie phrase correcte et courte ! " Courage !
May THE FORCE be with all of us! ☀️ ☀️

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de happynutmeg13, postée le 14-02-2025 à 11:18:59 (S | E)
Hello all!

Here is my sentence:

'Fungi vs mushrooms'

To the question, 'HOW FEASIBLE IS IT to naturally GROW mushrooms in domestic electrical ICEBOXES?', I answered: 'I'D RATHER use a damp MATTRESS- but I'm SORRY to recommend not to SHARE them with anyone, CONTRARY TO what you might want. 38 words

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de gerold, postée le 15-02-2025 à 21:08:53 (S | E)
Hello!

"Cruelty to plants and mattresses"

HOW IRRITATING was that incident she'D RATHER forget: CONTRARY TO common sense, her SORRY-looking son had laid on the MATTRESS a leaking ICEBOX containing DOMESTIC plants that she intended to SHARE with friends but probably wouldn't GROW now. (about 38-39 words) (d'rather = one word?)

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de magie8, postée le 20-02-2025 à 09:55:26 (S | E)
Hello'
A discouraged Mum

CONTRARY TO the other boys, HOW UNBERABLE my son is! he LAYS a wet ICEBOX on the MATTRESS, he doesn't want to SHARE anything, I am SORRY, he will never GROW up; I think that I'D RATHER have a DOMESTIC animal. 40 mots

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de here4u, postée le 23-02-2025 à 21:21:36 (S | E)
Hello dears,

I've had an idea... ( )
This exercice takes me houuuuuurs to understand and correct... Not all sentences are tricky for me, but I've imagined that
I could ask for your help and suggestions! [Several brains are, of course, better than than one only...]

-'HOW FEASIBLE IS IT to naturally GROW mushrooms...?'
I don't like this phrase. (but strictly speaking, it's not a mistake)... Can any of the students who have given an answer try to justify, explain and identify it? Then, will you please relieve my pain and suggest another construction?

Then, I am also puzzled by something else... Can you clarify, please? not to SHARE them

When I'm feeling better, We'll go on with another sentence...

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de happynutmeg13, postée le 24-02-2025 à 09:55:18 (S | E)
Hello all!

I'm sorry for you, dear Here4U...
I don't know if this will help remove your headache:

-'HOW FEASIBLE IS IT to naturally GROW mushrooms...?'
Maybe the problem is the order of the words and the use of 'naturally'? Can we just suppress 'naturally' and be still ok with the rules? 'How feasible is it to GROW mushrooms...' Or: 'How feasible is it to grow mushrooms naturally...'?

'not to share them' should be 'not SHARING them' for a gerund is required after 'recommend'

New sentence:
To the question, 'HOW FEASIBLE IS IT to GROW mushrooms in domestic electrical ICEBOXES?', I answered: 'I'D RATHER use a damp MATTRESS- but I'm SORRY to recommend not SHARING them with anyone, CONTRARY TO what you might want. 38 words

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de here4u, postée le 24-02-2025 à 10:35:30 (S | E)
Hello!

Thanks a lot for your suggestions! I'm satisfied with the first part, but still find 'them' quite enigmatic... Can you clarify, please?

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de happynutmeg13, postée le 24-02-2025 à 12:29:42 (S | E)
Oh sure!
Mushrooms = 'them'

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de mad14, postée le 25-02-2025 à 19:22:53 (S | E)
Hello Here4u - Here is my work!

Both roommates have a GROWING desire to SHARE a flat, they met to check DOMESTIC needs they were a SORRY figure CONTRARY TO their usual: the MATTRESS was insuitable, they would rather call the owner and tell her HOW TALL they were; morever the room is a very ICEBOX.

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de here4u, postée le 25-02-2025 à 23:21:56 (S | E)
Hello!

Suite de notre inter correction et auto-correction : Appel aux rédacteurs de bonne volonté. Can any of the students who have given an answer try to help us?

"Cruelty to plants and mattresses"
HOW IRRITATING was that incident she'D RATHER forget: bien examiner la construction...

'her SORRY-looking son had laid on the MATTRESS a leaking ICEBOX' le verbe est trop loin de son COD. Voir comment il est possible d'arranger cela sans rajouter trop de mots...

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de happynutmeg13, postée le 26-02-2025 à 09:22:08 (S | E)
Hello!

"Cruelty to plants and mattresses"
HOW IRRITATING was that incident she'D RATHER forget: bien examiner la construction...

The problem is maybe that a question was required, which is not the case here (exclamation)

'her SORRY-looking son had laid on the MATTRESS a leaking ICEBOX' le verbe est trop loin de son COD. Voir comment il est possible d'arranger cela sans rajouter trop de mots...

Maybe just simply: 'her SORRY-looking son had laid a leaking ICEBOX on the MATTRESS'

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de here4u, postée le 26-02-2025 à 11:11:39 (S | E)
Hello dears,

Oui, mais comment pouvoir alors continuer avec les compléments « containing » …. (tout le reste de la phrase, en fait …)
I’m expecting your suggestions….

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de happynutmeg13, postée le 26-02-2025 à 12:54:24 (S | E)
Hello again!

Maybe this:

CONTRARY TO common sense, her SORRY-looking son had laid a leaking ICEBOX on the MATTRESS, which ICEBOX was containing DOMESTIC plants (that) she intended to SHARE with friends but probably wouldn't GROW now.

Si on supprime 'that' on reste en dessous des 40 mots... La phrase est moins élégante cependant

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de here4u, postée le 26-02-2025 à 13:04:23 (S | E)
Hello you all!

Thanks Happynutmeg, but your «  the mattress, which icebox … » n’est pas bon….

Gerold, I think we need your extra meditation on your writing…

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de gerold, postée le 26-02-2025 à 16:29:13 (S | E)
Hello dear here4u

My new attempt:

She'D RATHER forget these DOMESTIC plants she wanted to SHARE with friends but which, HOW PITIFUL it was, will never GROW because, CONTRARY TO common sense, her SORRY-looking son had put them in an ICEBOX leaking on a MATTRESS. 39 words

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de here4u, postée le 26-02-2025 à 19:26:30 (S | E)
Hello dear gerold!

This one is PERFECT and short too!

Yet, I don't like when words resist... and would like an improvement of the original sentence if you can...

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de here4u, postée le 26-02-2025 à 19:37:48 (S | E)
Hello!

Another attempt to reach perfection, please...

A discouraged Mum

CONTRARY TO the other boys, HOW UNBERABLE my son is! * he LAYS a wet ICEBOX on the MATTRESS, he doesn't want to SHARE anything, I am SORRY, he will never GROW up; I think that I'D RATHER have a DOMESTIC animal. 40 mots


* la contrainte principale de cet exercice, c'est UNE SEULE PHRASE ! Pas de point intermédiaire... Comment vas-tu me résoudre celle-là?

Très bien par ailleurs...

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de here4u, postée le 26-02-2025 à 20:05:22 (S | E)
Another one yet again!

Both roommates have a GROWING desire to SHARE a flat, they met to check DOMESTIC needs they were a SORRY figure CONTRARY TO their usual: the MATTRESS was insuitable, they would rather call the owner and tell her HOW TALL they were; morever the room is a very ICEBOX.

Quelques problèmes de ponctuation (à revoir) mais une phrase prometteuse.

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de happynutmeg13, postée le 27-02-2025 à 09:35:52 (S | E)
Hello all!

Could this be of any help?

Both roommates have a GROWING desire to SHARE a flat, they met to check DOMESTIC needs; they were a SORRY figure, CONTRARY TO their usual: the MATTRESS was insuitable, they would rather call the owner and tell her HOW TALL they were; morever the room is a very ICEBOX. 'was such an ICEBOX'

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de snoopy59, postée le 28-02-2025 à 08:05:28 (S | E)
SORRY for whoever doesn't agree, but many DOMESTIC items that WE SHARE, such as A MATTRESS, kitchen appliances, AN ICEBOX, are often undervalued, HOWEVER IMPORTANT they could be, while, on the CONTRARY TO that, they help people GROW up and live safe; i'D RATHER have them than regret to miss them.


36 mots

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de here4u, postée le 28-02-2025 à 22:47:23 (S | E)
Hello dears,


Voici donc le processus de corrections que vous avez mené. Bravo à vous tous qui avez rédigé ces phrases ou/ et qui les avez corrigées.

I) I don't know if this will help remove your headache: Happynutmeg correcting her own creation:

-'HOW FEASIBLE IS IT to naturally GROW mushrooms...?'
Maybe the problem is the order of the words and the use of 'naturally'? Can we just suppress 'naturally' and be still ok with the rules? 'How feasible is it to GROW mushrooms...' Or: 'How feasible is it to grow mushrooms naturally...'?

'not to share them' should be 'not SHARING them' for a gerund is required after 'recommend'

New sentence:
To the question, 'HOW FEASIBLE IS IT to GROW mushrooms in domestic electrical ICEBOXES?', I answered: 'I'D RATHER use a damp MATTRESS- but I'm SORRY to recommend not SHARING them with anyone, CONTRARY TO what you might want. 38 words

Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de happynutmeg13, postée le 24-02-2025 à 09:55:18 (S | E)
Hello all!

I'm sorry for you, dear Here4U...
I don't know if this will help remove your headache:

-'HOW FEASIBLE IS IT to naturally GROW mushrooms...?'
Maybe the problem is the order of the words and the use of 'naturally'? Can we just suppress 'naturally' and be still ok with the rules? 'How feasible is it to GROW mushrooms...' Or: 'How feasible is it to grow mushrooms naturally...'?

'not to share them' should be 'not SHARING them' for a gerund is required after 'recommend'

New sentence:
To the question, 'HOW FEASIBLE IS IT to GROW mushrooms in domestic electrical ICEBOXES?', I answered: 'I'D RATHER use a damp MATTRESS- but I'm SORRY to recommend not SHARING them with anyone, CONTRARY TO what you might want. 38 words

- J’ai posé les questions qui me contrariaient…
- You shouldn’t suppress ‘naturally’… : ‘to naturally grow’ is what is called ‘a split infinitive’. It’s common in AE, but not correct in BE. Putting the adverb at the end of the sentence is good.
- ‘Them’ was so far from its noun that is sounded enigmatic. OK with mushrooms
- FEASIBLE is good, but sounds odd to me. I’ll accept it but would prefer something more common (doable/ possible)


II) Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de gerold, postée le 15-02-2025 à 21:08:53 (S | E)
Hello!
"Cruelty to plants and mattresses"

HOW IRRITATING was that incident she'D RATHER forget: CONTRARY TO common sense, her SORRY-looking son had laid on the MATTRESS a leaking ICEBOX containing DOMESTIC plants that she intended to SHARE with friends but probably wouldn't GROW now. (39 words) (d'rather = one word?oui)


"Cruelty to plants and mattresses"
HOW IRRITATING was that incident she'D RATHER forget: bien examiner la construction...

'her SORRY-looking son had laid on the MATTRESS a leaking ICEBOX' le verbe est trop loin de son COD. Voir comment il est possible d'arranger cela sans rajouter trop de mots...


Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de happynutmeg13, postée le 26-02-2025 à 09:22:08 (S | E)
Hello!

"Cruelty to plants and mattresses"
HOW IRRITATING was that incident she'D RATHER forget: bien examiner la construction...

The problem is maybe that a question was required, which is not the case here (exclamation)OUI!

'her SORRY-looking son had laid on the MATTRESS a leaking ICEBOX' le verbe est trop loin de son COD. Voir comment il est possible d'arranger cela sans rajouter trop de mots...

Maybe just simply: 'her SORRY-looking son had laid a leaking ICEBOX on the MATTRESS'

"Cruelty to plants and mattresses"
HOW IRRITATING was that incident she'D RATHER forget: bien examiner la construction...

'her SORRY-looking son had laid on the MATTRESS a leaking ICEBOX' le verbe est trop loin de son COD. Voir comment il est possible d'arranger cela sans rajouter trop de mots...

Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de happynutmeg13, postée le 26-02-2025 à 09:22:08 (S | E)
Hello!

"Cruelty to plants and mattresses"
HOW IRRITATING was that incident she'D RATHER forget: bien examiner la construction...

The problem is maybe that a question was required, which is not the case here (exclamation) Bravo. Tu as détecté la différence entre ‘How pronom exclamatif’ et ‘How interrogatif’

'her SORRY-looking son had laid on the MATTRESS a leaking ICEBOX' le verbe est trop loin de son COD. Voir comment il est possible d'arranger cela sans rajouter trop de mots... (C’était possible en rajoutant un mot…)

Maybe just simply: 'her SORRY-looking son had laid a leaking ICEBOX on the MATTRESS' Oui. Avec ;

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de magie8, postée le 20-02-2025 à 09:55:26 (S | E)
Hello'
A discouraged Mum

CONTRARY TO (the) other boys, HOW UNBEARABLE my son is! he LAYS a wet ICEBOX on the MATTRESS, he doesn't want to SHARE anything, I am SORRY, he will never GROW up; I think that I'D RATHER have a DOMESTIC animal. 40 mots
Correction de UNEARABLE- En supprimant l’article devant ‘other boys ‘, on en fait un cas général… et on gagne un mot !
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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de mad14, postée le 25-02-2025 à 19:22:53 (S | E)
Hello Here4u - Here is my work!

Both roommates have a GROWING desire to SHARE a flat ; they met to check DOMESTIC needs ; they were a SORRY figure CONTRARY TO their usual: the MATTRESS was insuitable, they would rather call the owner and tell her HOW TALL they were; morever the room is a real ICEBOX.
Simplement quelques changements de ponctuation et ‘very’ remplacé par ‘real ‘.
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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de snoopy59, postée le 28-02-2025 à 08:05:28 (S | E)
SORRY for whoever doesn't agree, but many DOMESTIC items that WE SHARE, such as A MATTRESS, kitchen appliances, AN ICEBOX, are often undervalued (;) HOWEVER IMPORTANT they could be ; (, while) (on the) CONTRARY TO that, they help people GROW up and live safe; I'D RATHER have/buy ? them than regret to miss/ missing them.36 mots TTB mais erreur de calcul! .

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Réponse : Playing and Working with words/ 64 de here4u, postée le 28-02-2025 à 22:55:00 (S | E)
Hello!

Here are your final corrections:


- To the question, 'HOW FEASIBLE IS IT to GROW mushrooms naturally in domestic electrical ICEBOXES?', I answered: 'I'D RATHER use a damp MATTRESS- but I'm SORRY to recommend not SHARING mushrooms with anyone, CONTRARY TO what you might want. 38 words


- HOW IRRITATING that incident was, she'D RATHER forget ; CONTRARY TO common sense, her SORRY-looking son had laid a leaking ICEBOX on the MATTRESS ; it contained DOMESTIC plants that she intended to SHARE with friends but probably wouldn't GROW now. (39 words)


- Gerold’s bis : new attempt:

She'D RATHER forget the(se) DOMESTIC plants she wanted to SHARE with friends but which, HOW PITIFUL (it was), will never GROW because, CONTRARY TO common sense, her SORRY-looking son had put them in an ICEBOX leaking on a MATTRESS. 39 words


- A discouraged Mum
CONTRARY TO (the) other boys, HOW UNBEARABLE my son is! he LAYS a wet ICEBOX on the MATTRESS, he doesn't want to SHARE anything, I am SORRY he will never GROW up; I think that I'D RATHER have a DOMESTIC animal. 40 mots


- Both roommates have a GROWING desire to SHARE a flat; they met to check DOMESTIC needs; they cut a SORRY figure CONTRARY TO their usual: the MATTRESS was insuitable, they would rather call the owner and tell her HOW TALL they were; morever the room is a real ICEBOX.


-SORRY for whoever doesn't agree ; many DOMESTIC items that WE SHARE, such as A MATTRESS, kitchen appliances, AN ICEBOX, are often undervalued, HOWEVER IMPORTANT they could be; CONTRARY TO that, they help people GROW up and live safe; I'D RATHER buy them than regret missing them.46 mots


Bravo pour vos corrections et pour vos nouvelles phrases !

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